tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133521035538248322.post1145567205646479864..comments2023-12-24T05:39:44.753-06:00Comments on Mike Klonsky's Blog: More on the DOE's anti-Ravitch strategyMike Klonskyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02017021676773731024noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133521035538248322.post-33578375323166003882012-04-09T17:59:44.970-05:002012-04-09T17:59:44.970-05:00From one anonymous writer to another - the Manhatt...From one anonymous writer to another - the Manhattan Institute continues to support Charles Murry despite his efforts to try and prove that blacks are genetically inferior to whites, as published in his 1994 best-seller. For example, in Feburary of this year he was given a substantial promotion for his new book on their website. I should also mention that the infamous John Derbyshire, known for his most recent racially motivated column in the National Review, is also connected to the Manhattan Institute. This information is pretty easy to find on Google. My Point? MI is a very dangerous organization that operates under the pretense of "doing good" but with an ultimate goal of increasing the divide by perpetuating racism. According to online sources, they were even able to swindle their way into the City Of Newark,NJ, the largest African American City in the United States, and were ultimately hired by the City's black Mayor, Cory Booker, to run Newark's prisoner reentry program. How does something like this happen? It's pretty unbelievable...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133521035538248322.post-7899954956468095232011-08-09T06:24:35.118-05:002011-08-09T06:24:35.118-05:00Actually, Jay Greene is in many ways worse than th...Actually, Jay Greene is in many ways worse than the racist Murray. In this National Review article, Greene calls Murray, "a conservative most renowned for his book Losing Ground, which was a highly influential criticism of the modern welfare state."<br /><br />But this praise is followed by a break with Murray over NCLB's standardized testing mania. Murray, writes Greene, "joins the chorus of NCLB discontents in arguing that high-stakes testing narrows student learning to include only test-taking skills, and that it discourages teachers whose autonomy is threatened. These are popular mantras of the teacher unions and others opposed to reforming the nation’s public-school system."<br /><br />Above all else, Greene is a union hater which puts his anti-Ravitch diatribes into some perspective.Mike Klonskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02017021676773731024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133521035538248322.post-77716400850993063022011-08-09T06:13:12.811-05:002011-08-09T06:13:12.811-05:00If you read Greene's own vita, published on th...If you read Greene's own vita, published on the Manhattan Institute's website, you will find many, if not most of his papers published by the MI. http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/cv_greene.htmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133521035538248322.post-91527955674385386682011-08-09T06:06:04.980-05:002011-08-09T06:06:04.980-05:00At the time Murray began to explore the racist not...At the time Murray began to explore the racist notions that led him and partner Hernstein, to write The Bell Curve, he was employed by the Bradley-funded Manhattan Institute. It was the far-right Bradley Foundation, the driving force behind both Murray and the institute, that pushed Murray to ultimately move from MI over to the American Enterprise Institute. Greene began working for MI in 2000 and left a short while ago to move to the Univ. of Arkansas where he has continued to write his pro-voucher, anti-union polemics.Greg O.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133521035538248322.post-35583641421546918152011-08-07T11:29:56.056-05:002011-08-07T11:29:56.056-05:00Even if Murray is racist, you're just trying t...Even if Murray is racist, you're just trying to smear Greene with guilt by association, and even if Greene were somehow guilty of anything, that is completely irrelevant to his case against Ravitch (which is that she is embarrassing her own side by being so over-the-top . . . rhetoric like "genocidal" and the like).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133521035538248322.post-91907232566495496712011-08-07T10:49:45.254-05:002011-08-07T10:49:45.254-05:00Anonymous (if that is indeed your real name")...Anonymous (if that is indeed your real name") is right about dates of Murray's and Green's departures from MI. But that's a nit-picky defense of reactionary Greene. He didn't leave MI over political or ideological differences. He just took another job with a university-based, right-win school "reform" center." Murray went over to the the even more far-right American Enterprise Institute. But MI still prints his stuff and does interviews with him. See for example, http://www.citiesonahill.org/school_choice/ where MI promoted Greene's book: <br />· Education Myths: What Special-Interest Groups Want You to Believe About our Schools –and Why it Isn't So<br /><br />MI's website also carries: "· Charles Murray discusses his book, 'Real Education' with John Leo Podcast: Interview, Charles Murray, John Leo, February 6, 2009<br /><br />So whether Murray and Green are officially members of the Institute today, is not the important thing. The point is that both still find common ground at the Manhattan Institute and elsewhere in the right-wing and racist think-tank world. <br /><br />If that bothers or embarrasses Anon he should get over it.Michael Klonskynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133521035538248322.post-12021332229887763352011-08-07T09:08:16.161-05:002011-08-07T09:08:16.161-05:00Why do you guys lie about stuff that is so easily ...Why do you guys lie about stuff that is so easily google-able? Charles Murray's latest book was published by Crown Forum, a division of Random House. No connection to Manhattan Institute whatsoever. In fact, Murray never published a book with the Manhattan Institute.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133521035538248322.post-23702450859006558562011-08-06T22:26:24.440-05:002011-08-06T22:26:24.440-05:00They published Murray's latest book. Greene st...They published Murray's latest book. Greene still speaks at many of their programs. He is still described as a "senior fellow" on several of MI articles as late as 08.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133521035538248322.post-77120575435743852832011-08-06T21:51:11.687-05:002011-08-06T21:51:11.687-05:00No, he's not listed here: http://www.manhattan...No, he's not listed here: http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/scholars.htm <br />And Charles Murray hasn't been there in over 20 years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133521035538248322.post-11318579294156711362011-08-06T21:39:45.655-05:002011-08-06T21:39:45.655-05:00Hey Anon. Greene is still called a "Senior Fe...Hey Anon. Greene is still called a "Senior Fellow" on the MI web site. Where can we read about his resignation? Why did he leave? Political differences? Doesn't seem like it.Rupert watchernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133521035538248322.post-79681625760241237632011-08-06T20:01:05.725-05:002011-08-06T20:01:05.725-05:00Hey @#!*% , Greene quit the Manhattan Institute o...Hey @#!*% , Greene quit the Manhattan Institute over a year ago, and Murray was fired from the Manhattan Institute in 1990 over the Bell Curve, so they were never there at the same time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133521035538248322.post-18886560371171034592011-08-05T12:09:32.394-05:002011-08-05T12:09:32.394-05:00I read that Greene piece last week and didn't ...I read that Greene piece last week and didn't understand almost any of it. Good thing he's not coherent.james boutinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09625944306253098621noreply@blogger.com